Banned wrongly and accused of using alts

[V3N0M_123]

Your in-game name: V3N0M_123
Person who banned you: Icefang113
Reason given for ban: Venom alt, griefing Pej
Reason(s) you should be unbanned:
Firstly, PR0X_X_Predator is not my alt. He is my friend, and he has been on teamspeak independantly, and was banned for xray.
Second, neither is Predator_13x, he is my big brother, who is a builder on Fyre UK, and has played with people like Shen before. The only alt I have, is DAMMIT_JIM, which is actually my real account, and I'm pretty sure I never used it to grief anything.
Third, I should not be given a ban for this, as I have never been banned for griefing before. This is an example of inadequate questioning before giving a ban, and is totally unreasonable, another thing that was unreasonable, was that you continued to ban after I said, multiple times, they were not my alts, and then proceeded to ban me and say 'Oh well' afterwards (I know this because I was on skype with Emerald and Bravo). Is this how a moderator should act? I don't really care if I get unbanned or not, this is just clearing this up, and since Ice has just deleted me from skype, I think this is totally unfair towards me. I have proof to argue my case that my only alt is dammit_jim, to show that these accounts are in fact, not mine, and any other excuse you may have for banning me. Just because there is more than 1 account on my ip, doesn't mean they're my alts. I let other people use my laptop too. I'm not saying I didn't grief Pej, I did, however I do not deserve a 2hr ban, or any ban for it, and the unfair treatment towards me from Icefang, seriously, what the hell man.




And as for people such as Max, who will probably side with Ice and tell me 'You quit so why do you care', why does it concern you so much about my own affairs with the server?

[VVX1000]

Hi Venom, I know I was not the one to give you this ban, however I don't see how it was done with injustice at all. Let me break down this for you the best I can.

Firstly, PR0X_X_Predator is not my alt. He is my friend, and he has been on teamspeak independantly, and was banned for xray.

Remember that every account attached to the same IP as yours is your responsibility, whether you used it or not. It coincides with the same "my brother did it" excuse to ones main account. This rule has been in place for as long as I can remember, ban every account on the same IP to avoid any further conflicts with the user and the staff. Though it might not be your account as you so claim it is, you should be aware enough of who is playing in your household. You have played over 1000 hours on this server and know what is right or not, yet you continually cause issues which lead to bans at some points. Lead by example, teach your supposed friend that this isn't allowed (That's if he was the one who did it). I was there when the whole x-ray affair happened, and the only reason you weren't banned for that was probably because he did it more in his place, and the username didn't show up on your IP at the time, as the majority of his hours were at his home.

Second, neither is Predator_13x, he is my big brother, who is a builder on Fyre UK, and has played with people like Shen before. The only alt I have, is DAMMIT_JIM, which is actually my real account, and I'm pretty sure I never used it to grief anything.

This was done for the same reason Pr0X was banned, if it shows up in your IP, they will ban them indefinitely to avoid having further trouble with said user.

Third, I should not be given a ban for this, as I have never been banned for griefing before. This is an example of inadequate questioning before giving a ban, and is totally unreasonable.

You know way better than to argue with anti-grief logs, they do not ban for an unjust reason.

You have been banned for griefing before, if I can remember it I'm sure anyone else here can, please don't try that type of approach. You know more than well that Ice as well as myself and other mods have been around for almost as long as you if not longer.

I saw the questioning log, there was nothing corrupt in his decision making. In fact it was totally appropriate. For the extent of the issue anything less would of been too soft, anything more would of been to rash.

another thing that was unreasonable, was that you continued to ban after I said, multiple times, they were not my alts, and then proceeded to ban me and say 'Oh well' afterwards (I know this because I was on skype with Emerald and Bravo). Is this how a moderator should act?

Like I said above, again, they ban all users from the same IP to avoid further conflict on the server itself, and it promotes people to make a ban appeal instead of causing potential chaos in global chat.

I don't really care if I get unbanned or not

Then why did you post a ban appeal in the first place? You are wasting your time, and ours.

this is just clearing this up, and since Ice has just deleted me from skype, I think this is totally unfair towards me. I have proof to argue my case that my only alt is dammit_jim, to show that these accounts are in fact, not mine, and any other excuse you may have for banning me.

Any account that's tied to your IP is immediately presumed your responsibility, whether it's your friend or you. YOU are playing with them, if they did it, YOU could of stopped it before it happened. These accounts were banned because like I said more than twice now, it's to promote writing a ban appeal and prevent further trouble on the server itself.

Just because there is more than 1 account on my ip, doesn't mean they're my alts. I let other people use my laptop too.

They are still your responsibility. Tracing back to the "my brother did it" thing, you say it's your laptop. Well, let's say your brother used your account while he was on your laptop, it's the exact same thing if it was his account on the same laptop. You are liable as it is your equipment and your device, just as you would be liable if your brother used your account.

I'm not saying I didn't grief Pej, I did

Then you have no reason to make an appeal here, as you just admitted you did it. I would say from this it is a Denied appeal, however I did not issue the ban. You will have to wait for Ice's verdict.

however I do not deserve a 2hr ban, or any ban for it, and the unfair treatment towards me from Icefang, seriously, what the hell man.

If you break the rules, like you just stated in the above quote where you agreed to griefing pej, then you pay the price. For the extent of the issue and the conflict that presumed that's why it was labeled as a 2h ban.

And as for people such as Max, who will probably side with Ice and tell me 'You quit so why do you care', why does it concern you so much about my own affairs with the server?

Honestly it does get confusing, but even if you left or not you still have to follow proper procedures of this community.

Thank you for your cooperation.

[V3N0M_123]

I can't be bothered to quote anything so, first, the two accounts; PR0X and Predator have not played on the server for over a year. Maybe 2 years. Neither of them griefed, PR0X was banned for xray, I was there, and predator has not had any bans at all. As for the logs, I know that the logs do not lie, but I am being 100% honest that I DID NOT break a trap door. If I had done I would have acknowledged that, as I did the banners. There is no reason for me to lie about logs. If I agreed with the logs, I would not be making this appeal. I have also never been banned for griefing, the only bans I've ever had are swearing. As for 'me not caring if this is approved', like I said after that, it's just to clear this up, and since Ice deleted me from Skype, this is the only place I can argue my case, to clear up that 'You did not need to post this'. You didn't need to quote this tbh. I do not deserve a 2 hour ban, a 30 min or 1hr sure. But this does not speak for the reason Icefang deleted me from skype after I appealed to him. I won't go into this since it is not related to the ban as such. As for 'any account on your ip is your responsibility', I acknowledge that it is server rule, but this isn't really fair to everyone.

P.S You don't have to say in your reply 'Like I've said twice now', as I did not argue against it when you were typing it, was I?

[maxmmm1501]

quite immature for me to bring this up but I'm going to anyway

Hey guys, the internet master here, the pewdepys, brofost, I am quitting again. No hate. First time I've quit. I hate most of you people. Catch me on sam peppers new prank vid; nuking russia (GONE SEXUAL), c u in lyk a munth, if nut den by :^)


Edit for Max: Only came on upon request by Emerald to get his wp, and today to /allow him in corona :^)

Why do you care if you're banned, you quit.

[VVX1000]

I should of supposed you would reply again, so here's yet another answer to your common complains.

P.S You don't have to say in your reply 'Like I've said twice now', as I did not argue against it when you were typing it, was I?

I do it on purpose, just to show how much you recycle your opinions and statements. That doesn't help your argument especially if they are mostly false.

I can't be bothered to quote anything so, first, the two accounts; PR0X and Predator have not played on the server for over a year. Maybe 2 years. Neither of them griefed, PR0X was banned for xray, I was there, and predator has not had any bans at all.

Remember that every account attached to the same IP as yours is your responsibility, whether you used it or not. It coincides with the same "my brother did it" excuse to ones main account. This rule has been in place for as long as I can remember, ban every account on the same IP to avoid any further conflicts with the user and the staff.

Like I said before, My point still stands.

As for the logs, I know that the logs do not lie, but I am being 100% honest that I DID NOT break a trap door. If I had done I would have acknowledged that, as I did the banners. There is no reason for me to lie about logs. If I agreed with the logs, I would not be making this appeal.

"There is no reason to lie about logs"
"If I agreed with the logs, I would not be making this appeal"

Those statements contract themselves ultimately. As you said, logs don't lie, so if the mod saw the log saying you broke that trapdoor you can refute that, but if the evidence is there, there is no reason to get yourself into more trouble. Like I said before, you will be wasting your time, and ours.

I have also never been banned for griefing the only bans I've ever had are swearing.

Yep you have. Believe that all you want. If you weren't banned for griefing in the past it would of been 30m to an hour. The next offense will be a higher amount of time. You should know that by now considering what you said above "only bans I've ever had are swearing". That, and what you did today isn't okay.

As for 'me not caring if this is approved', like I said after that, it's just to clear this up, and since Ice deleted me from Skype, this is the only place I can argue my case

It's a 2 hour ban, I don't see how you need to complain about it now even close to the end of it's expiration. Like I said before, you are wasting your time, and ours.

The only thing you are clearing up is that you want everyones attention in attempt to create more drama against the moderation staff.

to clear up that 'You did not need to post this'. You didn't need to quote this tbh.

Don't try and make passive aggressive threats to me, you have no valid preface to do so. I'm am reiterating the rules and regulations that you so already know. You admitted to doing it. Do the crime you do the time. All your doing is causing unneeded problems.

I do not deserve a 2 hour ban, a 30 min or 1hr sure. But this does not speak for the reason Icefang deleted me from skype after I appealed to him. I won't go into this since it is not related to the ban as such.

It's the decision of the mod who gave it. I can't agree or decline about the time but based on the extent of the issue it seems appropriate.

As for 'any account on your ip is your responsibility', I acknowledge that it is server rule, but this isn't really fair to everyone.

Remember that every account attached to the same IP as yours is your responsibility, whether you used it or not. It coincides with the same "my brother did it" excuse to ones main account. This rule has been in place for as long as I can remember, ban every account on the same IP to avoid any further conflicts with the user and the staff.

Like I said before, point still stands. It's totally fair, the only reason why you don't think it's fair is because it's happening to you.

I am locking this thread and moving it to the appropriate location as the ban has already expired (and was denied in the first place), and I am pretty sure all you will continue to do is try and cause further issues on this thread, which I will not tolerate you doing.